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-====== Ratting in a Carrier ====== +====== How to Rat in a Carrier ====== 
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-Carrier Ratting has long been regarded as the beginning of the endgame for making ISK, with the Rorqual mining and Supercarrier ratting being the only conventional means of making more. Your ticks in this ship skyrocket from the 16-20 million ISK the Gila and Dominix offered, all the way up to 50-55 million ISK. You also gain an obscene amount of tank, and capital status which makes you by default important enough to send a ping and drop our capital forces to save.+Carrier Ratting has long been regarded as the beginning of the endgame for making ISK, with Rorqual mining and Supercarrier ratting being the only conventional means of making more. Your ticks in this ship skyrocket from the 16-20 million ISK the Gila and Dominix offered, all the way up to 50-55 million ISK. You also gain an obscene amount of tank, and capital status which makes you by default important enough to send a ping and drop our capital forces to save.
  
 In exchange for this though, the carrier is among the most action-intensive ships to fly in Eve. AFK ratting is not possible with this class of ship, and ontop of this you need to familiarize yourself with the different mechanics surrounding capital ships to give yourself the best chance of survival when ratting, and to make yourself the most ISK.  In exchange for this though, the carrier is among the most action-intensive ships to fly in Eve. AFK ratting is not possible with this class of ship, and ontop of this you need to familiarize yourself with the different mechanics surrounding capital ships to give yourself the best chance of survival when ratting, and to make yourself the most ISK. 
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 **You MUST be able to reliably control your fighters to use this ship for ratting. A guide on how to do this can be found on [[/public/dojo/wiki/capital-introduction#how_to_control_fighters|This Page]].** **You MUST be able to reliably control your fighters to use this ship for ratting. A guide on how to do this can be found on [[/public/dojo/wiki/capital-introduction#how_to_control_fighters|This Page]].**
  
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 **[[/public/dojo/wiki/gila-ratting|The Ratting Gila]]** \\ Guristas Faction Cruiser \\ <label type="warning">~300 Million ISK</label> <label type="warning">Medium Skills</label> **[[/public/dojo/wiki/gila-ratting|The Ratting Gila]]** \\ Guristas Faction Cruiser \\ <label type="warning">~300 Million ISK</label> <label type="warning">Medium Skills</label>
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 +**[[/public/dojo/wiki/ishtar-ratting|The Isktar]]** \\ Gallente Heavy Assault Cruiser \\ <label type="warning">~300 Million ISK</label> <label type="warning">Medium Skills</label>
  
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 **[[/public/dojo/wiki/carrier-ratting|Ratting Carriers]]** \\ Minmatar Carrier \\ <label type="danger">2-3 Billion ISK</label> <label type="danger">High Skills</label> **[[/public/dojo/wiki/carrier-ratting|Ratting Carriers]]** \\ Minmatar Carrier \\ <label type="danger">2-3 Billion ISK</label> <label type="danger">High Skills</label>
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 +**[[/public/dojo/wiki/dreadnought-ratting|Ratting Dreadnoughts]]** \\ Minmatar / Amarr Dreadnoughts \\ <label type="danger">3-4 Billion ISK</label> <label type="danger">High Skills</label>
  
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 ===== Fittings ===== ===== Fittings =====
  
-Ratting carriers are extremely variable in their fittings and can be customized in countless ways. For the sake of simplicity 2 fits are supplied here; a max tank fit which will slightly reduce ticks while giving you some buffer, and a max tick fit which will sacrifice that extra buffer for an extra 15-30 mil per hour. +Ratting carriers are extremely variable in their fittings and can be customized in countless ways. For the sake of simplicity three fits are supplied here; a max tank fit which will slightly reduce ticks while giving you some buffer, and a max tick fit which will sacrifice that extra buffer for an extra 15-30 mil per hour. The fits below may be meta'd down to accommodate your budget and comfort level.
  
-Bear in mind that while both these fits are fairly blingy, almost all modules can be safely downblinged to T2, Meta, or even T1 levels.+<TEXT type="warning">**When ratting in Catch, change out the Einherjies for Templars.**</TEXT>
  
-When ratting in Catch, change out the Einherjies for Templars. +<TEXT type="success">**Bear in mind that while these fits are fairly blingy, almost all modules can be safely downblinged to T2, Meta, or even T1 levels.**</TEXT>
  
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 The tank config of this ship is designed to give you a chance to get support on field if you get tackled. It won't make a difference to a dreadbomb, but with a small-medium sized fleet tackling you, you should be able to survive long enough to get a FAX and support on grid. Even more importantly, this variant includes a capacitor booster to both keep your tank active under neut pressure, and allow you to jump out in an emergency.  The tank config of this ship is designed to give you a chance to get support on field if you get tackled. It won't make a difference to a dreadbomb, but with a small-medium sized fleet tackling you, you should be able to survive long enough to get a FAX and support on grid. Even more importantly, this variant includes a capacitor booster to both keep your tank active under neut pressure, and allow you to jump out in an emergency. 
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-[Nidhoggur, Ratting Nidhoggur - Tank Config]+[Nidhoggur, Ratting Nidhoggur - Max Tank Config] 
 Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
 Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
 Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
-Drone Damage Amplifier II +Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier 
-Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II+Sentient Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer
  
 Capital Capacitor Booster II Capital Capacitor Booster II
-Dread Guristas Adaptive Invulnerability Field +Dread Guristas Multispectrum Shield Hardener 
-Dread Guristas Adaptive Invulnerability Field +Dread Guristas Multispectrum Shield Hardener 
-Omnidirectional Tracking Link II +Sentient Omnidirectional Tracking Link 
-Omnidirectional Tracking Link II+Sentient Omnidirectional Tracking Link
 CONCORD Capital Shield Extender CONCORD Capital Shield Extender
  
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 Fighter Support Unit II Fighter Support Unit II
 Fighter Support Unit II Fighter Support Unit II
-Cynosural Field Generator I +Heavy Energy Neutralizer II 
-Large Graviton Smartbomb II+Large EMP Smartbomb II
  
 Capital Core Defense Field Extender I Capital Core Defense Field Extender I
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 +Dromi I x3
 +Dromi I x3
 +Einherji II x9
 +Einherji II x9
 +Einherji II x9
 +Einherji II x9
 +Equite I x12
 +Equite I x12
 +Equite I x12
  
  
 Tracking Speed Script x2 Tracking Speed Script x2
-Liquid Ozone x1500 
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-Dromi I x3 
-Equite I x36 
-Einherji II x27 
  
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 [Nidhoggur, Ratting Nidhoggur - Max Tick Config] [Nidhoggur, Ratting Nidhoggur - Max Tick Config]
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 Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
 Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
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 Capital Shield Extender II Capital Shield Extender II
-Adaptive Invulnerability Field II +Multispectrum Shield Hardener II 
-Adaptive Invulnerability Field II+Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
 Sentient Omnidirectional Tracking Link Sentient Omnidirectional Tracking Link
 Sentient Omnidirectional Tracking Link Sentient Omnidirectional Tracking Link
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 Fighter Support Unit II Fighter Support Unit II
 Fighter Support Unit II Fighter Support Unit II
-Cynosural Field Generator I+Fighter Support Unit II
  
-Capital Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I +Capital Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II 
-Capital Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I +Capital Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II 
-Capital Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I+Capital Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
  
  
 +Dromi I x3
 +Dromi I x3
 +Einherji II x9
 +Einherji II x9
 +Einherji II x9
 +Einherji II x9
 +Equite I x12
 +Equite I x12
 +Equite I x12
  
  
 Tracking Speed Script x2 Tracking Speed Script x2
-Liquid Ozone x1500 
  
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 +This fit merges qualities of the Max-Tank and Max-Tick configs and removes the NSA entirely. If you want the best chance of avoiding being tackled, this is the fit you'll want to use. 
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 +[Nidhoggur, Ratting Nidhoggur - No-NSA Config]
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 +Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
 +Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
 +Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
 +Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
 +Sentient Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer
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 +Shadow Serpentis Sensor Booster
 +Shadow Serpentis Sensor Booster
 +Sentient Omnidirectional Tracking Link
 +Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
 +Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
 +Capital Shield Extender II
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 +Fighter Support Unit II
 +Fighter Support Unit II
 +Fighter Support Unit II
 +Fighter Support Unit II
 +Large EMP Smartbomb II
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 +Capital Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
 +Capital Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
 +Capital Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
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 +Dromi I x3
 Dromi I x3 Dromi I x3
-Equite I x36 +Einherji II x9 
-Einherji II x27+Einherji II x9 
 +Einherji II x9 
 +Einherji II x9 
 +Equite I x12 
 +Equite I x12 
 +Equite I x12 
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 +Scan Resolution Script x2 
 +Tracking Speed Script x1
  
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 <fc #ff0000>**The Number One Rule of running sites in a carrier is to ALWAYS KEEP YOUR FIGHTERS MOVING. If your fighters stop moving for more than 1-2 ticks you can find them getting volleyed by the battleships on grid.**</fc> With this in mind, you'll only want to use your fighter's MWDs when recalling, as during combat the increased speed messes with their application.  <fc #ff0000>**The Number One Rule of running sites in a carrier is to ALWAYS KEEP YOUR FIGHTERS MOVING. If your fighters stop moving for more than 1-2 ticks you can find them getting volleyed by the battleships on grid.**</fc> With this in mind, you'll only want to use your fighter's MWDs when recalling, as during combat the increased speed messes with their application. 
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 +<fc #ff0000>DO NOT run sites in GE-8JV. You are very likely to lose your ship due to high PVP activity.</fc>
  
 <callout type="primary" title="Before Undocking"> <callout type="primary" title="Before Undocking">
   * **You absolutely need to be on comms and in standing fleet so you can hear intel and call for support in real time.**   * **You absolutely need to be on comms and in standing fleet so you can hear intel and call for support in real time.**
 +  * Load 3 squads of ''Einherjies'' (or ''Templars'' in Catch) into your fighter tubes. 
 +  * Load Omnidirectional Tracking Links with ''Tracking Speed Scripts'' and Sensor Boosters with ''Scan Resolution Scripts''.
 +  * OPTIONAL: Having a Cyno Ship undocked in system will greatly increase your chances of survival if you get tackled.
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 <callout type="primary" title="After Undocking"> <callout type="primary" title="After Undocking">
-  * **Begin cycling your Hardeners and Ominidirectional Tracking Links, and keep them active for the duration of your ratting.**+  * **Begin cycling your Hardeners, Ominidirectional Tracking Links, and Sensor Boosters. Keep them active for the duration of your ratting.**
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   - Start screaming on comms and in fleet for support, ping #impass-pings on the Voltron Discord.    - Start screaming on comms and in fleet for support, ping #impass-pings on the Voltron Discord. 
     - Get someone else to FC the organization of caps and subcaps, doing so yourself can overwhelm you.      - Get someone else to FC the organization of caps and subcaps, doing so yourself can overwhelm you. 
-  - Stop your ship and light your cyno when the FC calls for it. +  - Put 'www <system>' in fleet, and kill any tackle you're capable of killing. 
 +    - If you have a cyno ship, warp it to the grid near your carrier and cloaked, and light it when the FC calls for it. 
   - Follow FC directions from this point on.   - Follow FC directions from this point on.
  
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 {{tag>ratting guide expert omega english}} {{tag>ratting guide expert omega english}}
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