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-**[[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Catch/GE-8JV|GE-8JV - Mothership Bellicose]]**  \\  //2019 - Present//  \\  <label type="success"><tooltip title="This is our current Catch Staging Citadel.">Friendly</tooltip></label>+**[[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Querious/K7D-II#ihub|K7D-II - Mothership Bellicose]]**  \\  //2023 - Present//  \\  <label type="success"><tooltip title="This is our current home system!">Friendly</tooltip></label> 
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 +**[[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Querious/K7D-II#ihub|K7D-II - Broadcast4Reps]]**  \\  //2023 - 2023//  \\  <label type="success"><tooltip title="This is our current home system!">Friendly</tooltip></label>
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-**[[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Impass/PZMA-E|PZMA-E - Fortress Impass]]**  \\  //2019 - Present//  \\  <label type="success"><tooltip title="This is our current Impass Staging Citadel.">Friendly</tooltip></label>+**[[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Fade/DO6H-Q#ihub|DO6H-Q - Dunk's Bee Hive]]**  \\  //2023 - 2023//  \\  <label type="danger"><tooltip title="Assets in Villasen V - Lai Dai Protection Service Logistic Support.">Destroyed</tooltip></label> 
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 +**[[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Fade/C4C-Z4#ihub|C4C-Z4 - The Sanctuary Institute of Paleo]]**  \\  //2022 - 2023//  \\  <label type="danger"><tooltip title="Assets in Villasen V - Lai Dai Protection Service Logistic Support.">Destroyed</tooltip></label> 
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 +**[[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Pure_Blind/F-NMX6#ihub|F-NMX6 - Mothership Bellicose]]**  \\  //2022 - 2023//  \\  <label type="danger"><tooltip title="Assets in Villasen V - Lai Dai Protection Service Logistic Support.">Destroyed</tooltip></label> 
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 +**[[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Pure_Blind/Q-5211#ihub|Q-5211 - Broadcast4Reps]]**  \\  //2021 - 2022//  \\  <label type="danger"><tooltip title="Assets in Villasen V - Lai Dai Protection Service Logistic Support.">Unanchored</tooltip></label> 
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 +**[[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Pure_Blind/5ZXX-K#ihub|5ZXX-K - Novum Fortes]]**  \\  //2021 - 2021//  \\  <label type="danger"><tooltip title="Assets in Anin (Lonetrek)">Destroyed</tooltip></label> 
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 +**[[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Geminate/NBPH-N#ihub|NBPH-N - The Gem of Nullsec]]**  \\  //2021 - 2021//  \\  <label type="warning"><tooltip title="If you haven't already done so, trigger Asset Safety manually. Assets will be in Uemon VIII - Moon 3 - Perkone Factory.">Sold</tooltip></label> 
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 +**[[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/P-ZMZV|P-ZMZV - The Leakstar]]**  \\  //2021 - 2021//  \\  <label type="success"><tooltip title="P-ZMZV is once again accessible. Your assets are just a couple gates away from our current staging.">Friendly</tooltip></label> 
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 +**[[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Catch/GE-8JV|GE-8JV - Mothership Bellicose]]**  \\  //2019 - 2021//  \\  <label type="danger"><tooltip title="Assets in Faspera I - Ammatar Fleet Testing Facilities.">Destroyed</tooltip></label> 
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 +**[[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Impass/PZMA-E|PZMA-E - Fortress Impass]]**  \\  //2019 - 2021//  \\  <label type="danger"><tooltip title="Assets in Misaba V - Moon 3 - Zoar and Sons Factory.">Destroyed</tooltip></label>
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 **[[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Impass/68FT-6|68FT-6 - Mothership Bellicose]]**  \\  //2017 - 2019//  \\  <label type="danger"><tooltip title="Assets in Misaba V - Moon 3 - Zoar and Sons Factory.">Unanchored</tooltip></label> **[[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Impass/68FT-6|68FT-6 - Mothership Bellicose]]**  \\  //2017 - 2019//  \\  <label type="danger"><tooltip title="Assets in Misaba V - Moon 3 - Zoar and Sons Factory.">Unanchored</tooltip></label>
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-**[[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Catch/GE-8JV|GE-8JV - SOTA Factory]]**  \\  //2017 - 2019//  \\  <label type="success"><tooltip title="While non-essential services have been deactivated, SOTA Factory still remains standing.">Friendly</tooltip></label>+**[[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Catch/GE-8JV|GE-8JV - SOTA Factory]]**  \\  //2017 - 2019//  \\  <label type="danger"><tooltip title="Assets in Faspera I Ammatar Fleet Testing Facilities.">Destroyed</tooltip></label>
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 **[[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Fade/DO6H-Q|DO6H-Q Station]]**  \\  //2016 - 2017//  \\  <label type="danger"><tooltip title="Assets in Villasen V - Lai Dai Protection Service Logistic Support.">Destroyed</tooltip></label> **[[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Fade/DO6H-Q|DO6H-Q Station]]**  \\  //2016 - 2017//  \\  <label type="danger"><tooltip title="Assets in Villasen V - Lai Dai Protection Service Logistic Support.">Destroyed</tooltip></label>
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-**[[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Querious/I1Y-IU|I1Y-IU Station]]**  \\  //2016 - 2016//  \\  <label type="warning"><tooltip title="Asset Safety would deposit your assets in Gehi IX - Moon 4 - Royal Khanid Navy Assembly Plant.">Hostile</tooltip></label>+**[[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Querious/I1Y-IU|I1Y-IU Station]]**  \\  //2016 - 2016//  \\  <label type="danger"><tooltip title="Assets in Gehi IX - Moon 4 - Royal Khanid Navy Assembly Plant.">Destroyed</tooltip></label>
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-**[[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Catch/GE-8JV|GE-8JV Station]]**  \\  //2014 - 2015//  \\  <label type="success"><tooltip title="GE-8JV was converted to a faction citadel, and still sits in system.">Friendly</tooltip></label>+**[[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Catch/GE-8JV|GE-8JV Station]]**  \\  //2014 - 2015//  \\  <label type="danger"><tooltip title="GE-8JV was converted to a faction citadel, and was destroyed in 2020. Assets in Faspera I - Ammatar Fleet Testing Facilities .">Destroyed</tooltip></label>
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 **Citadels can be destroyed, however they're somewhat more difficult to destroy than POSes.** Like POSes they have shields, armor, and structure health; but unlike POSes they have a comparatively low amount of health with a damage limit to prevent them from being killed too quickly. This damage limit works out so that each bash takes about 20 minutes to complete at max damage. They also have 2 reinforcement timers (after the loss of shields and armor), and only during the final reinforcement timer are structure services deactivated.  **Citadels can be destroyed, however they're somewhat more difficult to destroy than POSes.** Like POSes they have shields, armor, and structure health; but unlike POSes they have a comparatively low amount of health with a damage limit to prevent them from being killed too quickly. This damage limit works out so that each bash takes about 20 minutes to complete at max damage. They also have 2 reinforcement timers (after the loss of shields and armor), and only during the final reinforcement timer are structure services deactivated. 
  
-**When a structure is destroyed in normal space, all assets that were contained within it go into 'Asset Safety,' which you can read more about below. In wormhole space, all contained assets are dropped in containers named for their owners, and can looted by anyone.**+**When a structure is destroyed in normal space, all assets that were contained within it go into 'Asset Safety,' which you can read more about below. In wormhole space, and in the case of Abandoned structures, all contained assets are dropped in containers named for their owners, and can looted by anyone.**
  
 ==== Removal of Sovereignty Based Stations ==== ==== Removal of Sovereignty Based Stations ====
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 **Asset Safety has 2 stages; 5 days after its initial triggering a person can choose to deposit their assets to an NPC Station or Upwell Structure in the same system the assets were originally located. If the assets aren't moved in an additional 15 days, they're automatically deposited in the closest lowsec station, by True Distance.**  **Asset Safety has 2 stages; 5 days after its initial triggering a person can choose to deposit their assets to an NPC Station or Upwell Structure in the same system the assets were originally located. If the assets aren't moved in an additional 15 days, they're automatically deposited in the closest lowsec station, by True Distance.** 
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 +**Asset Safety is disabled on structures in the Abandoned state, which a structure is converted to if it has been in a Low Power state for 7 days.**
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 +==== The Abandoned Structure State ====
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 +[[https://www.eveonline.com/article/q9ayo4/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may|Added during the Forsaken Fortress update in Late May 2020]], the Abandoned Structure State occurs when a structure has been in a low power state for 7 days. **All structures in this state lose access to tether, reinforcement timers, and Asset Safety.** Structures in this state can be destroyed in one attack, and everything contained within will drop for the attackers to loot just like in wormhole space. 
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 +This change was most impactful in highsec where structure spam used to be rampant and otherwise abandoned structures were unlikely to be attacked. If you had assets stored in an unmaintained citadel (for example one owned by an alt-corp) during this period, it and the assets within were likely destroyed in the weeks following the update. Since this update, you should only store assets long-term in citadels that you trust will be maintained indefinitely, or in NPC Stations. 
  
 ==== Capital Changes ==== ==== Capital Changes ====
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 === The Cyno Changes === === The Cyno Changes ===
  
-[[https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197|The changes which have become referred to as 'Cynogeddon' happened in August 2019.]] This update encompasses 2 major changes; the addition of industrial cynosural fields, and the removal of regular cynosural fields from most ships. +[[https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197|The changes which have become referred to as 'Cynogeddon' happened in August 2019.]] This update encompasses 2 major changes; the addition of industrial cynosural fields, and the removal of regular cynosural fields from most ships.
  
-**Industrial cynosural fields can only be jumped to by Jump Freighters, and share the same basic requirements that regular cynos used to. However they can only be fit to T1 industrial ships.** If you had a cyno network setup for jump freighting, it will likely need some updates to get working again. +**Industrial cynosural fields can only be jumped to by Jump Freighters and Black Ops Battleships, and share the same basic requirements that regular cynos used to. However they can only be fit to T1 industrial ships.** If you had a cyno network setup for jump freighting, it will likely need some updates to get working again.
  
-**The big change in this update though was the removal of regular cynosural fields from all ships except for Force Recons, and Blackops Battleships.** This change //massively// increases the cost and risk involved in moving and deploying capitals. Alts dedicated to cyno ceptors, cyno rookie ships, and hard cynos are all now effectively useless, and likely require significant training to become useful again.+**The big change in this update though was the removal of regular cynosural fields from all ships except for Force Recons, and Blackops Battleships.** This change //massively// increases the cost and risk involved in moving and deploying capitals. Alts dedicated to cyno ceptors, cyno rookie ships, and hard cynos are all now effectively useless, and likely require significant training to become useful again.  ([[https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/File:Cyno_Types.png|Graphic: types of cynos]])
  
 ===== Moving Your Assets ===== ===== Moving Your Assets =====
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 If your stuff is where we are, then your process for getting everything where it needs to be is quick, cheap, and easy!  If your stuff is where we are, then your process for getting everything where it needs to be is quick, cheap, and easy! 
  
-There's ton of options for moving things within allied space, including [[https://www.trinity-x-industries.com/|Trinity X Industries]], [[http://freight.bravecollective.com/calculator/|Brave Freight]]and the #hauling channel on Slack.+There's ton of options for moving things within allied space, including [[http://freight.bravecollective.com/|Brave Freight]] and the #hauling channel on Slack.
  
 ==== If Your Assets are in Highsec ==== ==== If Your Assets are in Highsec ====
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 If you decided to stash away your assets in highsec before you took a break, getting everything to our staging is still fairly easy.  If you decided to stash away your assets in highsec before you took a break, getting everything to our staging is still fairly easy. 
  
-The cheapest option is to use a service like [[https://www.trinity-x-industries.com/|Trinity X Industries]], [[https://red-frog.org/|Red Frog]], [[https://www.pushx.net/|PushX]], or [[/public/dojo/wiki/public-hauling-contracts|Public Courier Contracts]] to get your assets to ''Mendori IV - Moon Ministry of Assessment Information Center''. From there you can use [[http://freight.bravecollective.com/calculator/|Brave Freight]] to get your assets to our Catch Staging of [[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Catch/GE-8JV|GE-8JV - Mothership Bellicose]], or our Impass Staging of [[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Impass/PZMA-E|PZMA-E - Fortress Impass]].+The cheapest option is to use a service like [[https://red-frog.org/|Red Frog]], [[https://www.pushx.net/|PushX]], or [[/public/dojo/wiki/public-hauling-contracts|Public Courier Contracts]] to get your assets to <text type="success">**Jita IV - Moon Caldari Navy Assembly Plant**</text> or <text type="success">**Amarr**</text>. From there you can use [[http://freight.bravecollective.com/|Brave Freight]] to get your assets to our Querious Staging of <text type="success">**K7D-II Broadcast4Reps**</text>.
  
 ==== If Your Assets Have Been Asset Safety'd ==== ==== If Your Assets Have Been Asset Safety'd ====
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 In many ways asset safety has been super helpful to returning players. Unfortunately though it does have one major downside; Asset Safety tends to cluster in a few major lowsec systems, which are extremely heavily camped. You have a few options if your items are in a lowsec system due to this mechanic: In many ways asset safety has been super helpful to returning players. Unfortunately though it does have one major downside; Asset Safety tends to cluster in a few major lowsec systems, which are extremely heavily camped. You have a few options if your items are in a lowsec system due to this mechanic:
  
-  * If the system isn't being camped (do some research on the people in local, look for people undocking bumping faxes, and look for insta-lockers on the undock to confirm this), you can evac as normal either yourself or using a service like [[https://red-frog.org/black_calculator|Black Frog]]. Get your stuff to highsec then follow the instructions in that section.+  * If the system isn't being camped (do some research on the people in local, look for people undocking bumping faxes, and look for insta-lockers on the undock to confirm this), you can evac as normal either yourself or using a service like [[https://www.pushx.net/|PushX]]. Get your stuff to highsec then follow the instructions in that section.
   * If the system is camped, your options become a bit more uncomfortable:   * If the system is camped, your options become a bit more uncomfortable:
     * You can try to run the camp if you have a capital ship. This basically involves utilizing your undock invulnerability to jump out safely, but //everything// has to be done perfectly. If you click jump at the wrong time, don't have fuel, or lose invuln you're pretty much guaranteed to go down.     * You can try to run the camp if you have a capital ship. This basically involves utilizing your undock invulnerability to jump out safely, but //everything// has to be done perfectly. If you click jump at the wrong time, don't have fuel, or lose invuln you're pretty much guaranteed to go down.
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