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+ | ==PI TL;DR== | ||
+ | PI stands for Planetary Interaction. PI is you building some stuff on a planet that collects the resources on said planet.\\ | ||
+ | After that you can refine those resources Going from:\\ | ||
+ | RO-> | ||
+ | Then you collect those materials and either sell them or make stuff with them.\\ | ||
+ | You are essentially making material (which sells for ISK) out of thin air and with very little effort. | ||
==== PI for the Brave Newbro ==== | ==== PI for the Brave Newbro ==== | ||
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That’s it. That is as simple as I can make PI. But it still doesn’t facilitate the question “How do I make ISK with PI”. | That’s it. That is as simple as I can make PI. But it still doesn’t facilitate the question “How do I make ISK with PI”. | ||
- | That part is simple. | + | That part is simple. |
==== Myth: PI is super-complicated and difficult to get started ==== | ==== Myth: PI is super-complicated and difficult to get started ==== | ||
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==== Myth: PI is only worth it in Wormholes. ==== | ==== Myth: PI is only worth it in Wormholes. ==== | ||
Verdict: Busted. | Verdict: Busted. | ||
- | * PI Lesson: | + | * PI Lesson: |
==== You need some skills bro! ==== | ==== You need some skills bro! ==== | ||
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* **__Required__** | * **__Required__** | ||
- Interplanetary Consolidation IV. (allows you to have more planets) | - Interplanetary Consolidation IV. (allows you to have more planets) | ||
- | - Command | + | - Command |
- | - I wouldn' | + | - At first, do not train to V as that takes longer than setting up an alt with CCU IV and IPC IV (In numbers, training |
* **__Optional__** | * **__Optional__** | ||
- Planetology. (Shows you accurately where planet resources are concentrated) | - Planetology. (Shows you accurately where planet resources are concentrated) | ||
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- Remote Sensing. [allows you to scan planets from ' | - Remote Sensing. [allows you to scan planets from ' | ||
- | ==== Skilled up and ready to choose some planets! ==== | ||
- | I strongly suggest keeping your PI all in the same system. you don't want to be jumping your hauler around with your paycheck sitting in it right? | ||
- | |||
- | We're keeping this simple so using a single planet production chain is the best way to go. You'll generally want to use something very similar to either the Standard Setup or the Navi Setup as listed below in Planet Setup Types. Generally the only exceptions to this are Microfiber Shielding, Polyaramids, | ||
- | |||
- | ---- | ||
- | NOTE: | ||
- | * When choosing planets try and stay away from planets with a large diameter, linking up your installations will use up a lot of Powergrid and CPU. | ||
- | * Gas planets suck... they normally have a large diameter and the resources deplete fairly quickly. | ||
- | |||
- | ---- | ||
- | === How to make those P2 items! === | ||
- | |||
- | Let's look at the [[http:// | ||
- | |||
- | * Buy your command centers- each planet has a specific command center, for example. 'Lava planets' | ||
- | * Load your command centers into your ship's cargo and safely get it to your local POS or into a safe and cloak up. A basic t1 industrial such as an iteron is good for this. | ||
- | * Start by finding a planet that has a good concentration of the two resources you want. | ||
- | * Find a spot where these resources are fairly close together and abundant, and place your command center there. | ||
- | * Next to it place your launchpad. | ||
- | * Then place your 2 ECUs in a location as close to your launchpad as you can while still covering the spots you want to gather resources from. | ||
- | * Then place 3 basic processing facilities in a line in the direction of each of your resources, as close to each other as you can for the shortest links possible. | ||
- | * How many storage facilities you have is sort of personal preference. | ||
- | * In a third direction put two or three advanced processors to make your P2s. | ||
- | * Link everything together as shown in the [[http:// | ||
- | * Set and place extractor heads for each of your ECUs. I start with one and put in as many extractor heads as I can until I get the out of power message, and then remove half of them (which will be used at the other ECU). I generally like to set the time to 2 days, 1 hour, 30 minutes (if you click just past the ' | ||
- | * On your ECU click routes and route your product to your P0 facility. | ||
- | * On your P0 facility click routes, select the incoming product, and route that to each of your P1 processors. | ||
- | * Route your P1 processors to your P1 storage (launchpad in this case). | ||
- | * Route your P1 storage to your P2 processors. | ||
- | * Route your P2 processors to your launchpad. | ||
- | * Hit submit. | ||
- | * Verify that the routes on each of your P1 processing facilities have 1 incoming and 1 outgoing product. | ||
- | * Verify that the routes on each of your P2 processing facilities have 2 incoming and 1 outgoing product. | ||
- | * Verify that your ECU is counting down and is routed. | ||
- | |||
- | == Storage == | ||
- | Rule #1: Always route to or from a storage facility or launchpad. | ||
- | |||
- | More storage means more hands free and passive, but less efficient than if you maintain it daily. | ||
- | |||
- | ---- | ||
- | === Making Advanced P4 Items === | ||
- | Don't be afraid to just make and sell P2s. But if you want to go farther, this is how. This is going to require multiple characters or buying P2s off the market to make it work. Don't forget you can always spend a week or two training a second character on your main's account or buy multiple character training to spend 2 weeks each training your blank character slots on your main account. | ||
- | |||
- | I find it convenient to produce up to P2s on each planet when possible. | ||
- | |||
- | Generally with these setups you're going to have a bunch of harvesting planets (making P2s whenever possible for convenience), | ||
- | |||
- | It's not a bad idea to have notepad open and take notes while you're figuring this stuff out. | ||
- | |||
- | See [[dojo: | ||
==== Let's set up your planets! ==== | ==== Let's set up your planets! ==== | ||
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Before we get to the Step by Step there is a few things you need: | Before we get to the Step by Step there is a few things you need: | ||
- | * an industrial ship. I strongly suggest buying an [[http:// | + | * an industrial ship. I strongly suggest buying an [[http:// |
- | * having access to a POS in system is very helpful for dropping your command | + | * having access to a POS in system is very helpful for dropping your command |
- | * A small amount of ISK to upgrade your command | + | * A small amount of ISK to upgrade your command |
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- | __**Step 1: Command | + | __**Step 1: Command |
- | Buy your command | + | Buy your command |
__**Step 2: Get into space.**__ | __**Step 2: Get into space.**__ | ||
- | Load your command | + | Load your command |
- | __**Step 3: Drop the Command | + | __**Step 3: Drop the Command |
- | Drop all of your command | + | Drop all of your command |
__**Step 4: Go home, Get drunk.**__ | __**Step 4: Go home, Get drunk.**__ | ||
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Now you start scanning your Planet. | Now you start scanning your Planet. | ||
- | [[http://i.imgur.com/ | + | {{https:// |
+ | [[https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ | ||
- Start with the least common resource you need. | - Start with the least common resource you need. | ||
- Check the other resource you need to make sure it isn't too far away. | - Check the other resource you need to make sure it isn't too far away. | ||
- | __**Step 6: Place Extractor | + | __**Step 6: Place Extractor |
- | [[http://i.imgur.com/ | + | {{https:// |
+ | [[https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ | ||
- | [[http://i.imgur.com/ | + | {{https:// |
+ | [[https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ | ||
- | __**Step 7: Place Spaceport.**__ | + | __**Step 7: Place Launchpad.**__ |
- | [[http://i.imgur.com/ | + | {{https:// |
+ | [[https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ | ||
- | __**Step 8: Place Basic Processors.**__ | + | __**Step 8: Place Basic Industry Facilities.**__ |
- | [[http://i.imgur.com/ | + | {{https:// |
+ | [[https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ | ||
- | __**Step 9: Place the Advanced | + | __**Step 9: Place the Advanced |
- | [[http://i.imgur.com/ | + | {{https:// |
+ | [[https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ | ||
__**Step 10: Select your Schematics.**__ | __**Step 10: Select your Schematics.**__ | ||
- | [[http://i.imgur.com/ | + | {{https:// |
- | - Click your Processor. | + | [[https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ |
+ | - Click your Industry Facility. | ||
- Click on the Schematics tab. | - Click on the Schematics tab. | ||
- | - look for the Schematic you need. (the basic processors | + | - look for the Schematic you need. (the basic facilities |
- | - Do this for all processors. | + | - Do this for all industry facilities. |
__**Step 11: Create your routes.**__ | __**Step 11: Create your routes.**__ | ||
- | [[http://i.imgur.com/ | + | {{https:// |
+ | [[https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ | ||
- | - Start with your Advanced | + | |
- | - Basic processors- route them to the Advanced | + | |
- | - Extractor | + | - Basic Industry Facilities should |
+ | - Extractor | ||
- | __**Step 12: Cycling | + | __**Step 12: Starting your Extractor |
You're almost making money, all you need to do now is set up your miners to work! This bit can be a little bit fiddly till you get the hang of it, you need to balance the intake of each of you Extractors eg. | You're almost making money, all you need to do now is set up your miners to work! This bit can be a little bit fiddly till you get the hang of it, you need to balance the intake of each of you Extractors eg. | ||
- | If you pull 1 million units of one resource per day on one Extractor | + | -Select |
+ | -Select | ||
+ | -Set your cycle timer using the ' | ||
+ | -Install and place a few extractors in and around the white concentration | ||
+ | -Place your extractors as close together as they can get without overlapping | ||
+ | -Press 'Start Extraction' | ||
+ | -Change your resource scanning filter to your second raw resource and repeat the process for your second | ||
+ | -Work to balance your 'Units Extracted' | ||
- | [[http://i.imgur.com/ | + | {{https:// |
- | + | [[https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ | |
- | Do not let drills overlap, it was cause interference and cause your drills to not mine as much as they could. | + | |
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- Get back into your hauler and get to your local POS. | - Get back into your hauler and get to your local POS. | ||
- | - [[http://i.imgur.com/ | + | - [[https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ |
- | - [[http://i.imgur.com/ | + | - [[https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ |
- Repeat for all other planets you work with. | - Repeat for all other planets you work with. | ||
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__**A few things to note:**__ | __**A few things to note:**__ | ||
- | * Nullsec is the second best place to do PI after than worhmholes. (seeing as thougt | + | * Nullsec is the second best place to do PI after wormholes. (seeing as though |
* If your Extractors are pulling over 10k per cycle, stick another processor down per extractor, you may not have enough for the whole process but it does add up. | * If your Extractors are pulling over 10k per cycle, stick another processor down per extractor, you may not have enough for the whole process but it does add up. | ||
- | * Once your in site planet | + | * Once your PI site runs low on resources, do another scan and relocate your operations. (it doesn' |
- | * Keep an eye on local if youre in Lowsec/Nullsec. (you dont want to lose your pay check!) | + | * Keep an eye on local if you' |
* There is no rush to move items from your planets, do it when you know nobody will be online. | * There is no rush to move items from your planets, do it when you know nobody will be online. | ||
* Do not forget to cycle your processors, if you don't reactivate them then you're just losing ISK. | * Do not forget to cycle your processors, if you don't reactivate them then you're just losing ISK. | ||
- | * Use your Alliance [[member: | + | * Use your Alliance [[/ |
* Alliance buyback works from the main systems we own, such as our staging systems. | * Alliance buyback works from the main systems we own, such as our staging systems. | ||
* Fly BRAVE 7o. | * Fly BRAVE 7o. | ||
- | If you wish to improve on this guide or just add things to it, | ||
- | contact me through any of the following means: | ||
- | * Wiki - mspamq_oftheents | ||
- | * Reddit - MSpamQ | ||
- | * EVE in game - MSpamQ OfTheEnts (this option is preferred, just shoot me a mail :) ) | ||
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- | --- // | ||
\\ | \\ | ||
\\ | \\ | ||
===== Planet Setup Types ===== | ===== Planet Setup Types ===== | ||
- | If your setup doesn' | + | Here are some examples |
== P0 to P2 == | == P0 to P2 == | ||
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[[http:// | [[http:// | ||
== P2 to P4 (no P1 required) == | == P2 to P4 (no P1 required) == | ||
- | [[http://i.imgur.com/ | + | [[https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ |
Single Setup (CCU4): You can just remove half of your processors. | Single Setup (CCU4): You can just remove half of your processors. | ||
== P2 to P4 (P1 required) == | == P2 to P4 (P1 required) == | ||
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Single Setup: If your P1 can be produced on a barren or temperate planet, you're going to do this very similarly to the no P1 required setup above, but replace one of the P2 -> P3 production lines with an extractor control units and P0 -> P1 processors. \\ | Single Setup: If your P1 can be produced on a barren or temperate planet, you're going to do this very similarly to the no P1 required setup above, but replace one of the P2 -> P3 production lines with an extractor control units and P0 -> P1 processors. \\ | ||
[[http:// | [[http:// | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==== Skilled up and ready to choose some planets! ==== | ||
+ | I strongly suggest keeping your PI all in the same system. you don't want to be jumping your hauler around with your paycheck sitting in it right? | ||
+ | |||
+ | We're keeping this simple so using a single planet production chain is the best way to go. You'll generally want to use something very similar to either the Standard Setup or the Navi Setup as listed below in Planet Setup Types. Generally the only exceptions to this are Microfiber Shielding, Polyaramids, | ||
+ | |||
+ | ---- | ||
+ | NOTE: | ||
+ | * When choosing planets try and stay away from planets with a large diameter, linking up your installations will use up a lot of Powergrid and CPU. | ||
+ | * Gas planets suck... they normally have a large diameter and the resources deplete fairly quickly. | ||
+ | |||
+ | ---- | ||
+ | === How to make those P2 items! === | ||
+ | |||
+ | Let's look at the [[http:// | ||
+ | |||
+ | * Buy your command centers- each planet has a specific command center, for example. 'Lava planets' | ||
+ | * Load your command centers into your ship's cargo and safely get it to your local POS or into a safe and cloak up. A basic t1 industrial such as an iteron is good for this. | ||
+ | * Start by finding a planet that has a good concentration of the two resources you want. | ||
+ | * Find a spot where these resources are fairly close together and abundant, and place your command center there. | ||
+ | * Next to it place your launchpad. | ||
+ | * Then place your 2 ECUs in a location as close to your launchpad as you can while still covering the spots you want to gather resources from. | ||
+ | * Then place 3 basic processing facilities in a line in the direction of each of your resources, as close to each other as you can for the shortest links possible. | ||
+ | * How many storage facilities you have is sort of personal preference. | ||
+ | * In a third direction put two or three advanced processors to make your P2s. | ||
+ | * Link everything together as shown in the [[http:// | ||
+ | * Set and place extractor heads for each of your ECUs. I start with one and put in as many extractor heads as I can until I get the out of power message, and then remove half of them (which will be used at the other ECU). I generally like to set the time to 2 days, 1 hour, 30 minutes (if you click just past the ' | ||
+ | * On your ECU click routes and route your product to your P0 facility. | ||
+ | * On your P0 facility click routes, select the incoming product, and route that to each of your P1 processors. | ||
+ | * Route your P1 processors to your P1 storage (launchpad in this case). | ||
+ | * Route your P1 storage to your P2 processors. | ||
+ | * Route your P2 processors to your launchpad. | ||
+ | * Hit submit. | ||
+ | * Verify that the routes on each of your P1 processing facilities have 1 incoming and 1 outgoing product. | ||
+ | * Verify that the routes on each of your P2 processing facilities have 2 incoming and 1 outgoing product. | ||
+ | * Verify that your ECU is counting down and is routed. | ||
+ | |||
+ | == Storage == | ||
+ | Rule #1: Always route to or from a storage facility or launchpad. | ||
+ | |||
+ | More storage means more hands free and passive, but less efficient than if you maintain it daily. | ||
+ | |||
+ | ---- | ||
+ | === Making Advanced P4 Items === | ||
+ | Don't be afraid to just make and sell P2s. But if you want to go farther, this is how. This is going to require multiple characters or buying P2s off the market to make it work. Don't forget you can always spend a week or two training a second character on your main's account or buy multiple character training to spend 2 weeks each training your blank character slots on your main account. | ||
+ | |||
+ | I find it convenient to produce up to P2s on each planet when possible. | ||
+ | |||
+ | Generally with these setups you're going to have a bunch of harvesting planets (making P2s whenever possible for convenience), | ||
+ | |||
+ | It's not a bad idea to have notepad open and take notes while you're figuring this stuff out. | ||
+ | |||
+ | See [[: | ||
+ | |||
===== Miscellaneous Useful Links ===== | ===== Miscellaneous Useful Links ===== | ||
[[http:// | [[http:// | ||
- | [[http://alysii.com/eve/pi/|Great Visual Ingredient Guide]]\\ | + | [[https://hanns.io/pi/|Great Visual Ingredient Guide]]\\ |
- | [[http:// | + | [[https:// |
- | [[http:// | + | [[https:// |
[[http:// | [[http:// | ||
- | [[http:// | + | /*[[http:// |
- | [[http://eveplanets.com/eve/system/index/?show=cx65|List of Planets | + | [[https://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/K7D-II/celestials|K7D-II planet map, DOTLAN can show you the maps on each system |
- | ===== Video: Planetary Interaction | + | [[https:// |
+ | [[https:// | ||
+ | ===== Video: | ||
\\ | \\ | ||
- | {{http:// | + | [[https:// |
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- | * Link to the Reddit post: [[http:// | + | |
- | --- // | ||
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- | {{tag> | + | {{tag>production |