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-<alert type="danger">DO NOT use these ratting fits in P-ZMZV. You are very likely to lose your ship due to high PVP activity.</alert>
+<TEXT align="center"><alert type="danger" icon="fa fa-info-circle">**Ratting in our staging systems can be dangerous, and is highly discouraged!**</alert></TEXT>
-====== How to Rat in an Ishtar  ======
+===== How to Rat in an Ishtar =====
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-The Ishtar is an Heavy Assault Cruiser that emulates the VNIs of old. It can spin Havens afk until the final wave making it a good ship if you dont like active ratting.
+The Ishtar is an Heavy Assault Cruiser that emulates the VNIs of old. It can run most sites with little to no input required, making it a good ship if you don't like active ratting.
-You can make around 15-20 million isk/tick (every 20 minutes) using this fit, before bounty modifiers and the ESS cut.
+You can make around 15-20 million isk/tick (every 20 minutes) using this fit, assuming a 100% Bounty Risk Modifier.
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-===== The Ratting Progression Chain =====
+==== The Ratting Progression Chain ====
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-**[[/public/dojo/vexor-newbro-edition|The Vexor Newbro Edition]]** \\ <fs small>Gallente T1 Cruiser</fs> \\ <label type="success">~20 Million ISK</label> <label type="success">Low Skills</label>
+**[[/public/dojo/vexor-newbro-edition|The Vexor Newbro Edition]]** \\ <fs small>Gallente T1 Cruiser</fs> \\ <label type="primary">Free From The Dojo!</label> <label type="success">Low Skills</label>
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-**[[/public/dojo/wiki/myrmidon-ratting|The Ratting Myrmidon]]** \\ <fs small>Gallente T1 Battlecruiser</fs> \\ <label type="success">~90 Million ISK</label> <label type="success">Low Skills</label>
+**[[/public/dojo/wiki/myrmidon-ratting|The Ratting Myrmidon]]** \\ <fs small>Gallente T1 Battlecruiser</fs> \\ <label type="success">~80 Million ISK</label> <label type="success">Low Skills</label>
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-**[[/public/dojo/wiki/dominix-ratting|The Ratting Dominix]]** \\ <fs small>Gallente T1 Battleship</fs> \\ <label type="warning">~475 Million ISK</label> <label type="warning">Medium Skills</label>
+**[[/public/dojo/wiki/gila-ratting|The Ratting Gila]]** \\ <fs small>Guristas Faction Cruiser</fs> \\ <label type="warning">~390 Million ISK</label> <label type="success">Low Skills</label>
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-**[[/public/dojo/wiki/gila-ratting|The Ratting Gila]]** \\ <fs small>Guristas Faction Cruiser</fs> \\ <label type="warning">~425 Million ISK</label> <label type="warning">Medium Skills</label>
+**[[/public/dojo/wiki/ishtar-ratting|The Isktar]]** \\ <fs small>Gallente Heavy Assault Cruiser</fs> \\ <label type="warning">~225 Million ISK</label> <label type="warning">Medium Skills</label>
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-**[[/public/dojo/wiki/ishtar-ratting|The Isktar]]** \\ <fs small>Gallente Heavy Assault Cruiser</fs> \\ <label type="warning">~375 Million ISK</label> <label type="warning">Medium Skills</label>
+**[[/public/dojo/wiki/marauder-ratting|Ratting Marauders]]** \\ <fs small>Caldari / Gallente Marauders</fs> \\ <label type="danger">1 - 2 Billion ISK</label> <label type="danger">High Skills</label>
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-**[[/public/dojo/wiki/marauder-ratting|Ratting Marauders]]** \\ <fs small>Amarr / Caldari Marauders</fs> \\ <label type="danger">2 - 3 Billion ISK</label> <label type="danger">High Skills</label>
+**[[/public/dojo/wiki/carrier-ratting|Ratting Carriers]]** \\ <fs small>Minmatar Carrier</fs> \\ <label type="danger">3 - 4 Billion ISK</label> <label type="default">Capital Skills</label>
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-**[[/public/dojo/wiki/carrier-ratting|Ratting Carriers]]** \\ <fs small>Minmatar Carrier</fs> \\ <label type="danger">4 - 6 Billion ISK</label> <label type="default">Capital Skills</label>
+**[[/public/dojo/wiki/super-ratting|Ratting Supers]]** \\ <fs small>Minmatar Supercarrier</fs> \\ <label type="danger">38 - 42 Billion ISK</label> <label type="default">Capital Skills</label>
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+==== Fittings ====
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+Angel anomalies present a unique challenge with their target painters. This necessitates more raw repping power and closer orbits than would be necessary in other pirates' space, but even here the Ishtar remains a capable ship with unbeatable damage output for a low-input ratting platform.
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-**[[/public/dojo/wiki/dreadnought-ratting|Ratting Dreadnoughts]]** \\ <fs small>Minmatar / Amarr Dreadnoughts</fs> \\ <label type="danger">4 - 5 Billion ISK</label> <label type="default">Capital Skills</label>
+In nearby Sansha's Nation space, our old Querious + Delve fit runs sites smoothly, and with much tamer NPCs.
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+<panel type="default" title="Ratting Ishtar - Angels">
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-**[[/public/dojo/wiki/super-ratting|Ratting Supers]]** \\ <fs small>Minmatar Supercarrier</fs> \\ <label type="danger">38 - 42 Billion ISK</label> <label type="default">Capital Skills</label>
+<text type="success">**This Fit Requires Capacitor Stability!**</text>
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+<text type="success">If your skills are insufficient to be cap-stable, you may switch out for a **Large Clarity Ward Enduring Shield Booster**.</text>
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-===== Fittings =====
+<code>
-The Isktar has only been tested in Catch because Target Painters in Impass are scary.
+[Ishtar, Ratting Ishtar - Angels]
-<fc #ff0000>Before flying the below fit, please ensure you are cap stable!</fc>
+Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II
+Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II
+Drone Damage Amplifier II
+Drone Damage Amplifier II
+Drone Damage Amplifier II
+Drone Damage Amplifier II
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+MN Afterburner II
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+Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
+Large Shield Booster II
+Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery
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+Drone Link Augmentor II
+[Empty High slot]
+[Empty High slot]
+[Empty High slot]
+Medium Explosive Shield Reinforcer II
+Medium Explosive Shield Reinforcer II
+Warrior II x5
+Valkyrie II x5
+Berserker II x11
+Hornet EC-300 x5
+</code>
+</panel>
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+<panel type="default" title="Ratting Ishtar - Sanshas">
+<well size="sm">
+<text type="success">**This Fit Requires Capacitor Stability!**</text>
+</well>
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-[Ishtar, Ishtar-Catch]
+[Ishtar, Ratting Ishtar - Sanshas]
+Medium Armor Repairer II
+Medium Armor Repairer II
 Drone Damage Amplifier II
 Drone Damage Amplifier II
 Drone Damage Amplifier II
 Drone Damage Amplifier II
-Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II
-Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II
-MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
+MN Afterburner II
-Large Shield Extender II
+Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
-Large F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
 Drone Navigation Computer II
+Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery
 Drone Link Augmentor II
 Drone Link Augmentor II
-Medium EM Shield Reinforcer II
+Medium EM Armor Reinforcer II
-Medium EM Shield Reinforcer II
+Medium EM Armor Reinforcer II
+Praetor II x11
+Hornet EC-300 x5
+Acolyte II x5
+Infiltrator II x5
+Tracking Speed Script x1
+Optimal Range Script x1
-Valkyrie II x10
-Warrior II x8
-Praetor II x8
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 ==== How to Run Sites ====
-The Ishtar is unique among subcaps in its ability to run Havens safely and effectively, along with lower level sites like Forsaken Hubs and Forsaken Rally Points.
-<fc #ff0000>Despite this you still want to avoid sites with Forlorn or Hidden in the name, as their spawns can still overwhelm you.</fc>
+<well>
-Havens will be your bread and butter, providing the best ticks and with the chance to lead to a DED site which you can then either [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBb5aSqtN08|sell]] or [[public:dojo:wiki:ded-sites|run yourself]].
+=== If You're New to Ratting ===
-<fc #ff0000>The Ishtar should only run Rock Havens and not Gas Havens.</fc>
+<text type="success">**Give the [[/public/dojo/wiki/ratting|Introduction to Ratting]] page a read to avoid common mistakes and get some background knowledge.**</text>
-<fc #ff0000>DO NOT run sites in GE-8JV Or P-ZMZV. You are very likely to lose your ship due to high PVP activity.</fc>
+</well>
-<callout type="primary" title="Repeat For Each Site">
+<well>
-  * **You absolutely need to be on comms and in standing fleet so you can hear intel and call for support in real time.**
-  - Warp to the site at zero.
-  - Activate AB and orbit the Pirate Gate at 30 km. (Ensure you are achieving maximum velocity, this helps your survivability.)
-  - Drop drones on land and let them do their stuff.
-  - Wait for the last wave.
-    - There will be tackle frigs on the second wave if that makes you uncomfortable or if your tank isnt holding under the webs feel free to shoot them.
-  - Once the last wave has spawned start locking up and shooting the Battlecruiser once a few of them are off field and your tank is holding again go back to being afk.
-  - Once that is done recall drones and warp to the next site you dirty krab.
-</callout>
-===== If You Get Tackled =====
+=== Running Each Site ===
-<callout type="warning" title="Baddies Being Bads">
+== Angel Space ==
-If you get tackled preform the following, improvising where necessary.  \\  \\
+<text type="success">**Your Afterburner and Shield Modules should always be active while you're in a site.**</text>
+  - Warp to the site at 10 km.
+  - Find an object around the center of where the rats are spawning, and orbit it at 20 km (or 30 km in Forsaken Hubs).
+  - Drop Berserker II's and aggress a rat.
+    - If your drones come under attack, recall them, give the rats a few seconds to re-aggress you, then re-launch and re-aggress them.
+<text type="success">**Kill Order: Cruisers → Destroyers → Frigates → Battlecruisers → Battleships**</text>
+== Sansha's Nation Space ==
+<text type="success">**Your Afterburner, Armor Repairers, and Omnidirectional Tracking Link should always be active while you're in a site.**</text>
+  - Warp to the site at 30 km.
+  - Find an object around the center of where the rats are spawning, and orbit it at 35 km.
+  - Drop Praetor II's and aggress a rat.
+    - If your drones come under attack, recall them, give the rats a few seconds to re-aggress you, then re-launch and re-aggress them.
+<text type="success">**Kill Order: Cruisers → Destroyers → Frigates → Battlecruisers → Battleships**</text>
+</well>
+<well>
+=== Site-Specific Information ===
+Some sites require special attention due to a particularly nasty wave or unusual mechanics.
+== All Havens ==
+  * <text type="danger">**The final wave of this site may spawn NPC Capitals.**</text> If an NPC Capital appears you must warp off immediately to avoid being volleyed.
+== Angel Havens (Station Variant) ==
+  * <text type="danger">**The second-last wave of this site spawns a large amount of target painters.**</text> You want to immediately focus these down after they spawn, as leaving them up may allow the battleships to break your tank.
+== Angel Havens (Stargate Variant) ==
+  * <text type="danger">**Rarely, some waves of this site may spawn three target painters or webbers.**</text> You want to immediately focus these down after they spawn, as leaving them up may allow the battleships to break your tank.
+  * <text type="warning">**The rocks in this site may interfere with your orbit.**</text> You want a vertical orbit around the stargate if possible.
+</well>
+==== Additional Information ====
+<well>
+=== Runnable Sites ===
+The sites in this list have been tested and determined to be runnable using the above fits. It is not necessarily comprehensive, and some sites may require special attention which will be noted in the section above.
+  * Angel / Sansha Havens (Both Variants)
+  * Angel / Sansha Forsaken Hubs
+  * Angel / Sansha Hubs
+  * Angel / Sansha Forsaken Rally Points
+</well>
+==== If You Get Tackled ====
+<well>
+=== For Light Resistance ===
+"Light" resistance is a single frigate or destroyer.
-  - Dont Panic.
   - Begin aligning to a citadel.
-  - Alert Standing Fleet to your current predicament.
+  - Immediately switch all damage to the ship tackling you.
-  - Immediately switch all damage to the tackling ship.
   - If the point drops or the enemy ship dies, warp off.
-  - GF in local
-</callout>
-<callout type="danger" title="So You Died">
+</well>
+<well>
-That sucks but eventually it happens to everyone. Here are some steps to help you in your grieving process.  \\  \\
+=== For Heavy Resistance ===
-  - Realize it isnt the end of the world and try to learn a lesson for next time.
+Anything that's stronger than "Light" resistance is "Heavy" resistance.
-    - If there is no lesson to be learned and you are perfect already skip this step.
-  - Politely let standing fleet know that you will no longer be needing any assistance.
-  - GF in local.
-  - Try not to cry on comms.
-</callout>
-<fs xx-small>This page courtesy of <del>Chagrin Case, resident memer and head of the cult of {{https://emoji.slack-edge.com/T09PJB5EV/sun/f218087a84aa9524.gif}}</del> Naverin, Ice Tycoon.</fs>
+  - Begin aligning to a citadel.
+  - Immediately switch all damage to the weakest tackle ship on field.
+  - Start screaming on comms and in fleet for support.
+</well>
-{{tag>Ratting Guide Advanced All English}}
+{{tag>Ratting Guide Advanced Omega English}}