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-======How To Carrier Rat Safely======
+<TEXT align="center"><alert type="danger" icon="fa fa-info-circle">**Ratting in our staging systems can be dangerous, and is highly discouraged!**</alert></TEXT>
-~~NOTOC~~
-=====Carrier Ratting in 12 Steps=====
-|**1: Your refits**|So you should have refits in your cargo with multiple mobile depot. These refits should be a full rack of warp core stabs and a tank fit and some smartbombs.|
+===== How to Rat in a Carrier =====
-|**2: Look at local**|If there are neutrals in local, undocking in you carrier to rat is not a good idea|
-|**3: Make sure your carrier is insured**|It is very likely that as a carrier someone will try to make you not alive anymore. Your job is to make sure you make as much isk before this happens.|
-|**4: See Step 2**|
-|**5: Undocking**|Hit those undock arrows|
-|**6: See Step 2**|if nuets are in local dock up|
-|**7: Align to the target anom**|
-|**8: See Step 2**|if nuets are in local dock up|
-|**9: Warp to target anom**|
-|**10: Align back to station or to a POS/Citadel**|Do not carrier rat with no Station/POS/Citadel in system or an out cyno. Use your prop mod to align faster.|
-|**11: Launch your fighters**|
-|**12: Watch local**|If neuts show up hit the warp button to your instadock or to the POS/Citadel|
-**If you follow these steps you should not die in a ratting carrier**
-=====If you do get tackled======
+<grid>
-|**1: Assess what is attacking you**|The most important thing is to stay calm.|
+<col lg="10"><TEXT>
-|a. If it's only one ship deploy mobile depots and refit warp core stabs while you use your fighters to try and kill it, then warp off.||
-|b. If you are in a bubble refit smartbombs and tank||
-|c. If a fleet lands on you, you will probably die. If you can, refit to tank and start trying to get kills. When you see an opening, try and warp off.||
-|**2: Ask on comms if anyone can help you**|If not then die quietly||
-|**3: Figure out what happened.**|If you died it was because you did something bad and you should reasses what that was to make sure it does not happen again. What you should not do is talk shit about anyone who attempt to help you.|
-=====Final Advice:=====
+Carrier Ratting has long been regarded as the beginning of the endgame for making ISK, with Rorqual mining and Supercarrier ratting being the only conventional means of making more. Your ticks in this ship skyrocket from the 15-20 million ISK the Gila and Dominix offered, all the way up to 40-55 million ISK. You also gain an obscene amount of tank, and the ability to instantly jump to safety with the click of a button.
-Accept that as a carrier it is very likely you will die. It's just a matter of making the isk back before you die.
-Good Luck; Have Fun.
+In exchange for this though, the carrier is among the most action-intensive ships to fly in Eve. AFK ratting is not possible with this class of ship, and on top of this you need to familiarize yourself with the different mechanics surrounding capital ships to give yourself the best chance of survival when ratting, and to make yourself the most ISK.
+<grid><col lg="4">
+{{INLINETOC 3-4}}
+</col></grid>
+</TEXT></col>
+<col lg="2">
+<thumbnail><image shape="rounded">
+{{ https://images.evetech.net/types/24483/icon?size=64&.png? }}
+</image><caption>
+<TEXT align="center">
+**Nidhoggur** \\ Minmatar Carrier
+</TEXT>
+</caption>
+</thumbnail>
+</col>
+</grid>
+==== The Ratting Progression Chain ====
+<grid>
+<col lg="2">
+<thumbnail><image shape="rounded">
+{{ https://images.evetech.net/types/626/icon?size=64&.png? }}
+</image><caption>
+<TEXT align="center">
+**[[/public/dojo/vexor-newbro-edition|The Vexor Newbro Edition]]** \\ <fs small>Gallente T1 Cruiser</fs> \\ <label type="primary">Free From The Dojo!</label> <label type="success">Low Skills</label>
+</TEXT>
+</caption>
+</thumbnail>
+</col><col lg="2">
+<thumbnail><image shape="rounded">
+{{ https://images.evetech.net/types/24700/icon?size=64&.png? }}
+</image><caption>
+<TEXT align="center">
+**[[/public/dojo/wiki/myrmidon-ratting|The Ratting Myrmidon]]** \\ <fs small>Gallente T1 Battlecruiser</fs> \\ <label type="success">~80 Million ISK</label> <label type="success">Low Skills</label>
+</TEXT>
+</caption>
+</thumbnail>
+</col><col lg="2">
+<thumbnail><image shape="rounded">
+{{ https://images.evetech.net/types/17715/icon?size=64&.png? }}
+</image><caption>
+<TEXT align="center">
+**[[/public/dojo/wiki/gila-ratting|The Ratting Gila]]** \\ <fs small>Guristas Faction Cruiser</fs> \\ <label type="warning">~390 Million ISK</label> <label type="success">Low Skills</label>
+</TEXT>
+</caption>
+</thumbnail>
+</col><col lg="2">
+<thumbnail><image shape="rounded">
+{{ https://images.evetech.net/types/12005/icon?size=64&.png? }}
+</image><caption>
+<TEXT align="center">
+**[[/public/dojo/wiki/ishtar-ratting|The Isktar]]** \\ <fs small>Gallente Heavy Assault Cruiser</fs> \\ <label type="warning">~225 Million ISK</label> <label type="warning">Medium Skills</label>
+</TEXT>
+</caption>
+</thumbnail>
+</col><col lg="2">
+<thumbnail><image shape="rounded">
+{{ https://images.evetech.net/types/28710/icon?size=64&.png? }}
+</image><caption>
+<TEXT align="center">
+**[[/public/dojo/wiki/marauder-ratting|Ratting Marauders]]** \\ <fs small>Caldari / Gallente Marauders</fs> \\ <label type="danger">1 - 2 Billion ISK</label> <label type="danger">High Skills</label>
+</TEXT>
+</caption>
+</thumbnail>
+</col><col lg="2">
+<thumbnail><image shape="rounded">
+{{ https://images.evetech.net/types/24483/icon?size=64&.png? }}
+</image><caption>
+<TEXT align="center">
+**[[/public/dojo/wiki/carrier-ratting|Ratting Carriers]]** \\ <fs small>Minmatar Carrier</fs> \\ <label type="danger">3 - 4 Billion ISK</label> <label type="default">Capital Skills</label>
+</TEXT>
+</caption>
+</thumbnail>
+</col></grid>
+<grid><col lg="2">
+<thumbnail><image shape="rounded">
+{{ https://images.evetech.net/types/22852/icon?size=64&.png? }}
+</image><caption>
+<TEXT align="center">
+**[[/public/dojo/wiki/super-ratting|Ratting Supers]]** \\ <fs small>Minmatar Supercarrier</fs> \\ <label type="danger">38 - 42 Billion ISK</label> <label type="default">Capital Skills</label>
+</TEXT>
+</caption>
+</thumbnail>
+</col>
+</grid>
+==== Fittings ====
+Ratting carriers are extremely variable in their fittings, and can be customized in countless ways. For the sake of simplicity three fits are supplied here:
+  * The <text type="success">**High Tick Configuration**</text> prioritizes income above all else. It sacrifices tank and survivability to allow you to make as much money as possible.
+  * The <text type="success">**Safety Configuration**</text> prioritizes tank, and contains a Capacitor Booster to ensure you stay above jump cap at all times.
+  * The <text type="success">**Balanced Configuration**</text> takes aspects from the two other fits to give a nice balance of safety and income.
+<text type="success">**Almost all modules can be safely downgraded to T2, Meta, or even T1 to accommodate your budget and comfort level.**</text>
+<grid>
+<col lg="4">
+<panel type="default" title="Ratting Nidhoggur - Balanced Configuration">
+<code>
+[Nidhoggur, Ratting Nidhoggur - Balanced Configuration]
+Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
+Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
+Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
+Drone Damage Amplifier II
+Sentient Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer
+Dread Guristas Multispectrum Shield Hardener
+Dread Guristas Multispectrum Shield Hardener
+Sentient Sensor Booster
+Sentient Omnidirectional Tracking Link
+Sentient Drone Navigation Computer
+CONCORD Capital Shield Extender
+Fighter Support Unit I
+Fighter Support Unit I
+Fighter Support Unit I
+Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
+Large EMP Smartbomb II
+Capital Core Defense Field Extender I
+Capital Core Defense Field Extender I
+Capital Core Defense Field Extender I
+Dragonfly II x9
+Dragonfly II x9
+Dragonfly II x9
+Dragonfly II x9
+Einherji I x9
+Einherji I x9
+Einherji I x9
+Equite I x12
+Equite I x12
+Equite I x12
+Scan Resolution Script x1
+Tracking Speed Script x1
+</code>
+</panel>
+</col>
+<col lg="4">
+<panel type="default" title="Ratting Nidhoggur - Safety Configuration">
+<code>
+[Nidhoggur, Ratting Nidhoggur - Safety Configuration]
+Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
+Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
+Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
+Sentient Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer
+Damage Control II
+Capital Capacitor Booster II
+Dread Guristas Multispectrum Shield Hardener
+Dread Guristas Multispectrum Shield Hardener
+Sentient Sensor Booster
+Sentient Omnidirectional Tracking Link
+CONCORD Capital Shield Extender
+Fighter Support Unit I
+Fighter Support Unit I
+Fighter Support Unit I
+Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
+Large EMP Smartbomb II
+Capital Core Defense Field Extender I
+Capital Core Defense Field Extender I
+Capital Core Defense Field Extender I
+Dragonfly II x9
+Dragonfly II x9
+Dragonfly II x9
+Dragonfly II x9
+Einherji I x9
+Einherji I x9
+Einherji I x9
+Equite I x12
+Equite I x12
+Equite I x12
+Cap Booster 3200 x60
+Scan Resolution Script x1
+Tracking Speed Script x1
+</code>
+</panel>
+</col>
+<col lg="4">
+<panel type="default" title="Ratting Nidhoggur - Max Tick Configuration">
+<code>
+[Nidhoggur, Ratting Nidhoggur - Max Tick Configuration]
+Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
+Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
+Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
+Drone Damage Amplifier II
+Sentient Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer
+Dread Guristas Multispectrum Shield Hardener
+Dread Guristas Multispectrum Shield Hardener
+Sentient Sensor Booster
+Sentient Omnidirectional Tracking Link
+Sentient Drone Navigation Computer
+CONCORD Capital Shield Extender
+Fighter Support Unit I
+Fighter Support Unit I
+Fighter Support Unit I
+Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
+Large EMP Smartbomb II
+Capital Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
+Capital Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
+Capital Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
+Dragonfly II x9
+Dragonfly II x9
+Dragonfly II x9
+Dragonfly II x9
+Einherji I x9
+Einherji I x9
+Einherji I x9
+Equite I x12
+Equite I x12
+Equite I x12
+Scan Resolution Script x1
+Tracking Speed Script x1
+</code>
+</panel>
+</col>
+</grid>
+==== How to Run Sites ====
+<well>
+=== If You're New to Ratting in a Capital ===
+<TEXT type="success">
+**Give the [[/public/dojo/wiki/ratting|Introduction to Ratting]] page a read to avoid common mistakes and get some background knowledge.**
+**You absolutely must be proficient at controlling your fighters to successfully rat in a carrier. A guide on controlling your fighters can be found [[/public/dojo/wiki/capital-introduction#how_to_control_fighters|here]].**
+**It is highly recommended that you keep a Cyno Recon Ship on a dockable structure in a nearby system while ratting.**
+</TEXT>
+</well>
+<well>
+=== Running Each Site ===
+<text type="success">**Your Sensor Boosters and Omnidirectional Tracking Links should always be active while you're in a site.**</text>
+<text type="success">**The key to maximizing ticks while carrier ratting is to always keep your fighters moving. When a target's about to drop, command them to start orbiting the next target. Letting your fighters stay stationary could result in them getting volleyed.**</text>
+  - Warp to the site at 50 - 100 km.
+  - Align to a dockable citadel.
+  - Drop fighters and get them to the center of the site.
+  - Lock and begin killing rats as soon as they appear, following the Kill Order below.
+    - Note: You should have time to kill one Battlecruiser or Battleship before you've finished locking up frigates.
+  - At the beginning of the last wave, align out to your next site.
+<text type="success">**Kill Order: Cruisers -> Frigates -> Destroyers -> Battlecruisers -> Battleships**</text>
+</well>
+<well>
+=== Site-Specific Information ===
+Some sites require special attention due to a particularly nasty wave or unusual mechanics.
+== Havens and Sanctums ==
+  * <text type="danger">**The final wave of these sites may spawn NPC Capitals.**</text> You won't be able to solo these ships in a carrier, and should warp off.
+</well>
+==== Additional Information ====
+<well>
+=== Runnable Sites ===
+The sites in this list have been tested and determined to be runnable using the above fit(s). It is not necessarily comprehensive, and some sites may require special attention which will be noted in the section above.
+  * Guristas Sanctums (Ring Variant)
+  * Guristas Havens (Both Variants)
+  * Guristas Forsaken Hubs
+</well>
+==== If Neutrals Enter Local ====
+<well>
+=== Warping Off ===
+This assumes you are fully aligned to a dockable citadel.
+  - Immediately warp to the citadel.
+    - Preferably to a tac within tether.
+  - Once you have fully landed recall your fighters.
+=== Emergency Jumping (E-Jump) ===
+This assumes you have a Cyno Recon sitting on a dockable structure in a nearby system.
+  - Light your Recon's Cyno.
+  - Recall fighters with propmods on.
+  - Once fighters are recalled, jump to the cyno.
+    - If hostiles land before your fighters are in, you may need to consider jumping out without your fighters.
+</well>
+==== If You Get Tackled ====
+<well>
+=== For Light Resistance ===
+"Light" resistance is any combination of up to 10 subcaps that does NOT include:
+  * Triglavian Ships
+  * Heavy Interdiction Cruisers
+  * Logistics Cruisers
+  * Battleships
+\\
+  - Begin aligning to a citadel.
+  - Mention on comms and in fleet that you're tackled.
+  - Begin killing the weakest tackle ships on grid.
+    - If you find yourself not applying to frigates, switching to Equites may help.
+  - If at any point tackle drops, follow the [[#warping_off|warp-off procedure]] above.
+  - If tackle isn't dying quick enough, continue to the section on Heavy Resistance.
+</well>
+<well>
+=== For Heavy Resistance ===
+Anything that's stronger than "Light" resistance is "Heavy" resistance.
+  - Heat your hardeners.
+  - Start yelling on comms and in fleet for support.
+    - If you don't have your own cyno ready, get someone to light and keep one up in a nearby system.
+  - Kill any tackle you're capable of killing.
+    - You may be able to neut out tackle as well if you need to.
+  - If at any point tackle drops immediately warp out or e-jump to a dockable citadel.
+  - If an FC forms a fleet follow their instructions.
+</well>
+{{tag>Ratting Guide Expert Omega English}}
-{{tag>Ratting Guide Expert English}}