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   * Find an eligible C5 near GE-8JV   * Find an eligible C5 near GE-8JV
-  * Run the combat sites with Hospital Nestors and VNIs/​Rattlesnakes+  * Run the combat sites
   * Collect the loot and optionally salvage the wrecks   * Collect the loot and optionally salvage the wrecks
-  * Sell the loot at an NPC station with the appropriate buy orders (like in Stain; Curse is a better place to sell though because it is less camped)+  * Sell the loot at an NPC station with the appropriate buy orders (details for that at the bottom of the page)
  
 If that sounds interesting to you join ''#​brave-hole-divers''​ channel on Slack, as this is where we hang out, theorycraft,​ <​del>​spam pings</​del>​ and ping out fleets If that sounds interesting to you join ''#​brave-hole-divers''​ channel on Slack, as this is where we hang out, theorycraft,​ <​del>​spam pings</​del>​ and ping out fleets
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 ===== The Doctrine ===== ===== The Doctrine =====
-You could have a perfect wormhole, but it would be useless if you had no ships to run the sites and bring home the sweet, sweet loot. The basic fleet comp will be Nestor battleships ​supporting VNI and Rattlesnake DPSThe Nestors ​are called hospital nestors due to being fully rep fit and cap stable without a capchain. +You could have a perfect wormhole, but it would be useless if you had no ships to run the sites and bring home the sweet, sweet loot. The basic fleet composition consists of Nestor ​logistics ​battleships ​with Dominix DPS and can be expanded by adding Rattlesnakes and Leshaks. Nestors ​depend on capchain for capacitor stability ​to sustain armor repairers 
-<alert type="​info">​All the Mids and Highs on these fits can be meta'd down. The most important thing is that the tank is at the minimum required levels.</​alert>​+
  
 ==== Nestor ==== ==== Nestor ====
-One of the best looking ships in EVE, Nestor is a next step in the Brave Hole Divers ​corporate ladder. As Amarr Battleship skill is the one that increases ​those resistances (as well as Armor Compensation Skills), it is advised to have it trained to at least level IV. But do what you want, I’m just a wiki page and not your dad. Note that the Hospital Nestors //must// be cap stable and have minimum resists in EM/​Therm/​Kin/​Explo of 74/​67/​67/​72. If you can match the resists with less tank you can throw on additional DDAs.+One of the best looking ships in EVE, Nestor is the core of Brave Hole Divers ​Fleet. As Amarr Battleship skill increases resistances (as well as Armor Compensation Skills), it is advised to have it trained to at least level IV. But do what you want, I’m just a wiki page and not your dad. 
  
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-<panel type="​default"​ title="​Nestor, ​Hospital ​Brave">+<panel type="​default"​ title="​Nestor, ​4-3 Nestor">
 <​code>​ <​code>​
-[Nestor, ​Hospital ​Brave]+[Nestor, ​[BHD] 4-3 Nestor]
  
 +Armor Explosive Hardener II
 +Drone Damage Amplifier II
 +Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
 +Drone Damage Amplifier II
 +Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
 Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II
-Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 
-Capacitor Power Relay II 
-Capacitor Power Relay II 
-Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 
-Dark Blood Energized Explosive Membrane 
  
-Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery 
 Large Micro Jump Drive Large Micro Jump Drive
-Dark Blood Cap Recharger +Large Cap Battery II 
-Dark Blood Cap Recharger +Cap Recharger ​II 
-Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery +Large Cap Battery ​II 
-Drone Navigation Computer ​II+Cap Recharger II 
 +Cap Recharger ​II
  
-Drone Link Augmentor II +Large Remote Armor Repairer ​II 
-Large I-ax Enduring ​Remote Armor Repairer +Large Remote Armor Repairer ​II 
-Large I-ax Enduring ​Remote Armor Repairer +Large Remote Armor Repairer ​II 
-Large I-ax Enduring ​Remote Armor Repairer +Large Remote Armor Repairer ​II 
-Large I-ax Enduring ​Remote Armor Repairer +Large Remote ​Capacitor Transmitter II 
-Large I-ax Enduring ​Remote ​Armor Repairer +Large Remote ​Capacitor Transmitter II 
-Large I-ax Enduring ​Remote ​Armor Repairer+Large Remote Capacitor Transmitter II
  
 Large Remote Repair Augmentor I Large Remote Repair Augmentor I
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 Large Remote Repair Augmentor I Large Remote Repair Augmentor I
  
-Acolyte II x5 + 
-Hornet EC-300 x5 +Federation Navy Ogre x5 
-Hornet EC-300 x5 +Imperial Navy Praetor x5 
-Infiltrator II x5 +
-Ogre II x5 +
-Ogre II x2 +
-Praetor ​II x5 +
-Valkyrie II x5 +
-Warrior II x5+
  
  
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 Mobile Depot x1 Mobile Depot x1
 Mobile Tractor Unit x2 Mobile Tractor Unit x2
-Ogre II x5 
-Praetor II x5 
 Prototype Cloaking Device I x1 Prototype Cloaking Device I x1
 Core Probe Launcher I x1 Core Probe Launcher I x1
-Heavy Stasis Grappler II x1 
-Heavy Warp Scrambler I x1 
 </​code>​ </​code>​
 </​panel>​ </​panel>​
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-==== Vexor Navy Issue ==== +==== Dominix ​==== 
-As DPS boats we run VNIsthey do provide a lot of damage. Requirements are at least 9.5k Armor HP and minimum resists in EM/​Therm/​Kin/​Explo 69/​60/​71/​67,​ again Armor Compensation skills and bling means you can fit more DDAs and less EANMs.+Dominix - the space potatoT1 gallente battleship capable ​of fielding 5 heavy or 5 sentry drones. Blasters’ relatively short range, but high damage ​makes them very good at shredding the boss and the tracking bonus on sentry drones makes the application quite great at a decent range
  
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-<panel type="​default"​ title="​Vexor Navy IssueC5 Krabber">+<panel type="​default"​ title="​DominixBlaster Dominix">
 <​code>​ <​code>​
-[Vexor Navy IssueC5 Krabber]+[Dominix[BHD] Dominix Blaster]
  
 Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
 Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
-1600mm Steel Plates II 
 Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II
 Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II
 Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II
 +Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
 +1600mm Steel Plates II
  
 +Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
 +Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
 +Large Micro Jump Drive
 Drone Navigation Computer II Drone Navigation Computer II
 Drone Navigation Computer II Drone Navigation Computer II
-AML Compact Omnidirectional Tracking Link 
-AML Compact Omnidirectional Tracking Link 
  
-Drone Link Augmentor ​II +Drone Link Augmentor ​I 
-[Empty High slot] +Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I 
-[Empty High slot] +Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I 
-[Empty High slot]+Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I 
 +Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I 
 +Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I
  
-Medium Anti-Explosive ​Pump II +Large Trimark Armor Pump I 
-Medium Anti-Kinetic ​Pump II +Large Trimark Armor Pump I 
-Medium ​Anti-Explosive Pump II+Large Anti-Explosive Pump I
  
  
-Acolyte II x5 +Federation Navy Garde x5 
-Hornet EC-300 ​x5 +Federation Navy Ogre x5 
-Ogre II x5 +Imperial Navy Praetor ​x5
-Ogre II x1+
  
  
-Nanite Repair Paste x200 +Antimatter Charge L x8000 
-Sisters Core Scanner Probe x8 +Iron Charge L x8000
-Optimal Range Script x2 +
-Tracking Speed Script x2 +
-Mobile Depot x1 +
-Ogre II x3 +
-Prototype Cloaking Device I x1 +
-Core Probe Launcher I x1+
 Stasis Webifier II x2 Stasis Webifier II x2
 Warp Scrambler II x2 Warp Scrambler II x2
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- 
-You might wonder, why would I need drones in my cargo, I can’t launch them from there. In certain situations towards the end of the site not switching drones cuts your damage in half, and since there is usually at least one Nestor in the fleet you can move drones between your Drone Bay and Cargo Hold without any issues 
  
 ==== Rattlenake ​ ==== ==== Rattlenake ​ ====
-Requirements are at least 17k Armor HP and minimum resists in EM/​Therm/​Kin/​Explo 72/69/66/64. Rattlenakes should carry a full load of EM and Thermal Torps.+Rattlesnakes do as much damage, if not more with drones as the Nestors ​and Dominixes, but their Torpedos speed up the boss wave considerably,​ as they apply fully. With numerous mid slots, it’s also able to hold the DRB on its own,making it an excellent FC boat. Rattlenakes should carry a full load of EM and Thermal Torps.
  
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 <panel type="​default"​ title="​Rattlesnake,​ DAnk C5 Ticks">​ <panel type="​default"​ title="​Rattlesnake,​ DAnk C5 Ticks">​
 <​code>​ <​code>​
-[Rattlesnake,​ DAnk C5 Ticks]+[Rattlesnake, ​[BHD] DAnk C5 Ticks]
  
 Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II
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 Drone Navigation Computer II Drone Navigation Computer II
 Drone Navigation Computer II Drone Navigation Computer II
-Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Tracking Speed Script +Omnidirectional Tracking Link II 
-Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Tracking Speed Script +Omnidirectional Tracking Link II 
-Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Range Script +Missile Guidance Computer II 
-Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Range Script+Missile Guidance Computer II
 Large Micro Jump Drive Large Micro Jump Drive
  
 Drone Link Augmentor II Drone Link Augmentor II
-Torpedo Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo +Torpedo Launcher II 
-Torpedo Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo +Torpedo Launcher II 
-Torpedo Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo +Torpedo Launcher II 
-Torpedo Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo +Torpedo Launcher II 
-Torpedo Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo+Torpedo Launcher II
  
 Large Anti-Kinetic Pump I Large Anti-Kinetic Pump I
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-Inferno Javelin Torpedo x4000 
 Inferno Rage Torpedo x4000 Inferno Rage Torpedo x4000
 +Mjolnir Rage Torpedo x4000
 Missile Precision Script x1 Missile Precision Script x1
-Missile Range Script ​x1+Missile Range Script ​x3
 Nanite Repair Paste x500 Nanite Repair Paste x500
 Sisters Core Scanner Probe x8 Sisters Core Scanner Probe x8
 Scan Resolution Script x1 Scan Resolution Script x1
 Targeting Range Script x1 Targeting Range Script x1
-Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo x4000 
 Optimal Range Script x1 Optimal Range Script x1
-Tracking Speed Script ​x1+Tracking Speed Script ​x3
 Prototype Cloaking Device I x1 Prototype Cloaking Device I x1
 Sensor Booster II x1 Sensor Booster II x1
-Stasis Webifier II x3+Heavy Karelin Scoped Stasis Grappler x1 
 +Stasis Webifier II x2
 Target Painter II x2 Target Painter II x2
 Warp Scrambler II x3 Warp Scrambler II x3
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 +
 +==== Leshak ====
 +Leshak, a triglavian battleship, capable of highest subcapital damage in the game, while expansive to train, build and fly, makes the sites quite faster. This ship is by no mean a necessity, and one should train into it only if they are certain they want it.
 +
 +<alert type="​info">​This ship works well enough, but is by no means polished enough for everybody, fly at your own risk</​alert>​
 +
 +<​grid>​
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 +<panel type="​default"​ title="​Leshak,​ Triglavian Menace">​
 +<​code>​
 +[Leshak, [BHD] C5 Leshak]
 +
 +Entropic Radiation Sink II
 +Entropic Radiation Sink II
 +Entropic Radiation Sink II
 +Damage Control II
 +Tracking Enhancer II
 +Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
 +Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
 +Energized Explosive Membrane II
 +
 +Heavy Stasis Grappler II
 +Thukker Large Cap Battery
 +500MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
 +Large Micro Jump Drive
 +
 +Supratidal Scoped Entropic Disintegrator
 +[Empty High slot]
 +[Empty High slot]
 +[Empty High slot]
 +[Empty High slot]
 +
 +Large Trimark Armor Pump I
 +Large Anti-Thermal Pump I
 +Large Anti-Kinetic Pump I
 +
 +
 +Federation Navy Ogre x4
 +Imperial Navy Praetor x4
 +
 +
 +Baryon Exotic Plasma L x1500
 +Meson Exotic Plasma L x2000
 +Tetryon Exotic Plasma L x2000
 +</​code>​
 +</​panel>​
 +</​col>​
 +</​grid>​
 +
 === Recommended Buy Order === === Recommended Buy Order ===
-<alert type="​info">​Here is the recommenced ​order to get ships: ​VNI -> Nestor -> RattleIt is also recommended ​to keep the VNI once you have the Rattle in order to dive in medium ​holes.</​alert>​+<alert type="​info">​Here is the recommended ​order to get ships: ​Dominix ​-> Nestor -> RattlesnakeMoving ​to the rattle should not mean getting rid of the nestor both for logi and for medium ​wormholes</​alert>​
  
 ==== Picketing ==== ==== Picketing ====
  
-If there are outgoing wormholes from the C5 you are in you might want to consider watching the connectionsthat's where picketing comes into play. The picket is a dedicated alt that has all world sounds maxed out sitting near the wormhole, preferably cloaked. As soon as they hear the characteristic wub-wub-wub a wormhole does they should a. Alert the FC b. Switch to that account to try and gather the name and ship of the person coming through. There is no specific fitting, but since the picket alt is often salvaging alt as well, a normal salvage ship with a cloak will fill that role perfectly+If there are outgoing wormholes from the C5 you are in you might want to consider watching the connections ​and that's where picketing comes into play. The picket is a dedicated alt that has all world sounds maxed out sitting near the wormhole, preferably cloaked. As soon as they hear the characteristic wub-wub-wub a wormhole does they should a. Alert the FC b. Switch to that account to try and gather the name and ship of the person coming through. There is no specific fitting, but since the picket alt is often salvaging alt as well, a normal salvage ship with a cloak will fill that role perfectly
  
 It is important to have the camera centered at the wormhole, zoomed in as much as it is allowed, to be certain, that no enemy splash will go unnoticed It is important to have the camera centered at the wormhole, zoomed in as much as it is allowed, to be certain, that no enemy splash will go unnoticed
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 Site running details: Site running details:
-  * Bookmark the central Tower in the Garrison and warp to it at 10 +  * Bookmark the central Tower in the Garrison and warp to it at 10, or prepare special warpin bookmarks, guide coming soon 
-  * Drone Bunny is either a VNI or a Rattlesnake. +  * Drone Bunny is either a Dominix ​or a Rattlesnake. 
-  * For Garrisons ​everyone refits a single DDA to a DCU II+  * For Strongholds ​everyone refits a single DDA to a DCU II
  
 ===== FC stuff ===== ===== FC stuff =====
 If you are not interested in running fleets, feel free to skip this part. If you are not interested in running fleets, feel free to skip this part.
  
-This fleet comp is designed ​to run C5 sites with nestors. There are two advantages to this. The first is that VNI DPS is generally higher than Nestor/​Dominix DPS due to the ease of training high levels ​in ship skills. The second is that with no capchain the logistics does not need to worry about neuts bringing down the capchain or Catalysmic vairable wormholes. It is recommneded that the drone bunny not be a Nestor to keep the Nestor'​s reps free for damage switches. ​Finally this fleet setup is aimed to run Garrisons. If you wish to run strongholds then make sure all ships refit a Drone Damage Amplifier to a Damage Control Unit II+This doctrine ​is designed with at least 3 nestors in mind. It is recommneded that the drone bunny not be a Nestor to keep the Nestor'​s reps free for damage switches ​and refitting the capacitor mids to a target painter might endanger the stabilityThis fleet setup is aimed to run Garrisons. If you wish to run strongholds then make sure all ships refit a Drone Damage Amplifier to a Damage Control Unit II, and do so at your own risk
  
 ==== Selling the blue loot ==== ==== Selling the blue loot ====
-While running the sites, you must have noticed that you are not getting any bounty payouts, don’t worry it’s perfectly normal, if you are getting bounty payments, you should report it to the nearest CONCORD representative. What sleepers do however is to drop “blue loot” when killed. You should gather in with and MTU and when the site is done, scoop it, as it’s your payout ticket, and there is no fury like a krab unpaid, so DON’T lose it.+While running the sites, you must have noticed that you are not getting any bounty payouts, don’t worryit’s perfectly normal, if you are getting bounty payments, you should report it to the nearest CONCORD representative. What sleepers do however is to drop “blue loot” when killed. You should gather in with and MTU and when the site is done, scoop it, as it’s your payout ticket, and there is no fury like a krab unpaid, so DON’T lose it.
  
-If you manage to get is safely back to K-Space you might want to exchange it for ISK. There are buy orders all over New Eden, in NPC stations that is, with NPC buy orders for a set price, the closest to GE- being the 9RQ-L8 system in Stain, the way you get it there is up to you, but the most common way is to get an interceptor and fly it there, preferably with someone else scouting for you.+If you manage to get is safely back to K-Space you might want to exchange it for ISK. There are buy orders all over New Eden, in NPC stations that is, with NPC buy orders for a set price, the closest to GE- being the J7A-UR system in Curse, the way you get it there is up to you, but the most common way is to get an interceptor and fly it there, preferably with someone else scouting for you.
  
 If you have friends with the right tools or have the right tools, a setup with a Black Ops battleship bridging you to the target system is the foolproof way of getting the money safe. If you have friends with the right tools or have the right tools, a setup with a Black Ops battleship bridging you to the target system is the foolproof way of getting the money safe.
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 {{tag>​​ratting salvaging guide advanced all english}} {{tag>​​ratting salvaging guide advanced all english}}
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